Comments on: Do You Zombie Reply to All? http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/ Driving Innovation Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:49:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4489 Jake Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:49:13 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4489 I agree. Storage is cheap, and people shouldn't be encouraged to delete emails, even if that's not really what happens. I agree. Storage is cheap, and people shouldn't be encouraged to delete emails, even if that's not really what happens.

]]> By: Dan Norris http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4488 Dan Norris Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:21:11 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4488 No purging, they simply raised my limit. My other comments related to <br>the cost of someone spending time reviewing and enforcing limits versus <br>the cost of storage...that storage was relatively cheap compared to <br>human time. I'm quite sure that no one considered the implications <br>(legal or otherwise) of removing emails. No purging, they simply raised my limit. My other comments related to
the cost of someone spending time reviewing and enforcing limits versus
the cost of storage…that storage was relatively cheap compared to
human time. I'm quite sure that no one considered the implications
(legal or otherwise) of removing emails.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4487 Jake Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:09:33 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4487 Did they purge you? I think discovery laws covering email require backups to tape or some other permanent archive now. Destroying emails is a no-no. Did they purge you? I think discovery laws covering email require backups to tape or some other permanent archive now. Destroying emails is a no-no.

]]> By: Dan Norris http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4486 Dan Norris Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:31:08 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4486 I worked at a company that had limits on my inbox--not tiny limits, but I keep a lot of mail for CYA purposes. They asked me to purge messages. I asked them to purge customers and/or employees to help me reduce the amount of mail...or remove the limit. I didn't have any more problems after that (but don't work there any more). I worked at a company that had limits on my inbox–not tiny limits, but I keep a lot of mail for CYA purposes. They asked me to purge messages. I asked them to purge customers and/or employees to help me reduce the amount of mail…or remove the limit. I didn't have any more problems after that (but don't work there any more).

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4485 Jake Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:11:52 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4485 Oh yeah, that's a special variant I forgot to mention. Don't get me started on the tiny inbox size limit. Oh yeah, that's a special variant I forgot to mention. Don't get me started on the tiny inbox size limit.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4483 Jake Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:10:33 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4483 Great story. I don't think there's a way to stop a thread from an admin level, and if there were, someone would have a boring job. As with spam, I think my tolerance level is just higher than most, which I don't get because ignoring costs very little effort compared to getting angry enough to fire off a reply. Great story. I don't think there's a way to stop a thread from an admin level, and if there were, someone would have a boring job. As with spam, I think my tolerance level is just higher than most, which I don't get because ignoring costs very little effort compared to getting angry enough to fire off a reply.

]]> By: Matt Rasmussen http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4482 Matt Rasmussen Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:44:29 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4482 I dislike it when people zombie reply to all but enjoy the rants that follow. I always wonder why some email admin person doesn't do something to stop the spam. (Not being an email admin I wonder if there is such an ability...)<br><br>However, I'm not totally innocent in these cases. Three or four years ago after at least 50 "please unsubscribe" and flame replies to the initial gaffe that was sent to 500+ employees, I replied to all with the response "You are all now off my Christmas card list!" =) Some people I didn't even know replied to me asking me to reconsider. I dislike it when people zombie reply to all but enjoy the rants that follow. I always wonder why some email admin person doesn't do something to stop the spam. (Not being an email admin I wonder if there is such an ability…)

However, I'm not totally innocent in these cases. Three or four years ago after at least 50 “please unsubscribe” and flame replies to the initial gaffe that was sent to 500+ employees, I replied to all with the response “You are all now off my Christmas card list!” =) Some people I didn't even know replied to me asking me to reconsider.

]]> By: megbear http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4484 megbear Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:29:09 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4484 My favorite one of these involved a very large attachment in which those who replied all somehow sent it again. So not only did I get to see the humor/flame-o-grams I also got to go over quota a few times. Yeah! My favorite one of these involved a very large attachment in which those who replied all somehow sent it again. So not only did I get to see the humor/flame-o-grams I also got to go over quota a few times. Yeah!

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4491 Jake Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:55:39 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4491 But was it as funny? Your filtering skills kept you out of the humor loop. You should duck back in to see the last few. Great stuff.<br><br>Point is valid, I guess some people a) ignored, b) filtered, c) got pissed and replied rather than doing a or b, d) made a joke, e) all of the above :) But was it as funny? Your filtering skills kept you out of the humor loop. You should duck back in to see the last few. Great stuff.

Point is valid, I guess some people a) ignored, b) filtered, c) got pissed and replied rather than doing a or b, d) made a joke, e) all of the above :)

]]> By: Wayne Boerger http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4490 Wayne Boerger Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:42:23 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4490 I don't get why people get all worked up about it either. After about 10 (I was on the list too), I did a quick filter add in Thunderbird and haven't seen any since. I realize that not everyone knows how or is willing to do that, but it seems pretty simple to me.<br><br>BTW, I have been on at least 3-4 of those type of email strings this year. The prior one's went on MUCH longer than this one. I don't get why people get all worked up about it either. After about 10 (I was on the list too), I did a quick filter add in Thunderbird and haven't seen any since. I realize that not everyone knows how or is willing to do that, but it seems pretty simple to me.

BTW, I have been on at least 3-4 of those type of email strings this year. The prior one's went on MUCH longer than this one.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4493 Jake Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:12:22 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4493 I know. I'm actually disappointed it came to an end. The IQ tangent was getting good. Ah irony, it wouldn't be so fun if everyone got it. I know. I'm actually disappointed it came to an end. The IQ tangent was getting good. Ah irony, it wouldn't be so fun if everyone got it.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4495 Jake Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:11:22 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4495 In this case, yes, but in others, GMail is a bit jarring, e.g. it threads all my LinkedIn bacn, which I don't find all that useful. It's sometimes confusing when you just so happen to have the same subject for two different, unrelated emails.<br><br>These are corner cases though. I've been using GMail since 2004, happily. In this case, yes, but in others, GMail is a bit jarring, e.g. it threads all my LinkedIn bacn, which I don't find all that useful. It's sometimes confusing when you just so happen to have the same subject for two different, unrelated emails.

These are corner cases though. I've been using GMail since 2004, happily.

]]> By: Tim http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4492 Tim Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:54:05 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4492 Hey Jake<br>I was on that thread and was waiting for the flames(fun) to continue ... dang.<br><br>I cant believe how worked up folks get and then want to tell everyone how worked up they are about how everyone is replying all and getting them all worked up ... an amusing diversion.<br>Tim Hey Jake
I was on that thread and was waiting for the flames(fun) to continue … dang.

I cant believe how worked up folks get and then want to tell everyone how worked up they are about how everyone is replying all and getting them all worked up … an amusing diversion.
Tim

]]> By: LukeG http://theappslab.com/2008/06/24/do-you-zombie-reply-to-all/#comment-4494 LukeG Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:38:01 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=892#comment-4494 Sounds like gmail would've made your life much easier...the beauty of threading. Sounds like gmail would've made your life much easier…the beauty of threading.

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