Comments on: The Greatest Idea Moves Closer to Fruition http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/ Driving Oracle Innovation Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:57:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Jake http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3320 Jake Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:33:12 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3320 @Bruce: Never fear, this is on my pet project list, so it'll get there eventually, votes or not. I hope. @Bruce: Never fear, this is on my pet project list, so it’ll get there eventually, votes or not. I hope.

]]> By: Bruce Bergman http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3319 Bruce Bergman Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:46:14 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3319 Cool-ioness. I've voted for it. Maybe if we get enough people voting for it, we can move it to the Implemented tab. ;-) Cool-ioness. I’ve voted for it. Maybe if we get enough people voting for it, we can move it to the Implemented tab. ;-)

]]> By: Jake http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3309 Jake Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:40:56 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3309 @Bruce: I've brought this up a few times, but bugs and other projects have passed it in the queue. AppsLab has only 2 developers, so we rely on other teams who want to use Mix for budget to get consultancies like ThoughtWorks involved. This means they have their own agendas as well. I've added this as an <a hfre="https://mix.oracle.com/ideas/21568-add-an-implemented-ideas-tab" rel="nofollow">idea</a> for giggles to see how much support it has, and I'll see if I can get it done. @Bruce: I’ve brought this up a few times, but bugs and other projects have passed it in the queue. AppsLab has only 2 developers, so we rely on other teams who want to use Mix for budget to get consultancies like ThoughtWorks involved. This means they have their own agendas as well.

I’ve added this as an idea for giggles to see how much support it has, and I’ll see if I can get it done.

]]> By: Bruce Bergman http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3308 Bruce Bergman Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:22:31 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3308 You NEED to add an "implemented" tab (or "done" or "fixed" or whatever) to Mix. Not just because it's a nice housekeeping thing, but because it SELLS Mix to both the user community and the Oracle management. It's one thing to point to a cool new tool and say "see, this is pretty neat, and people love it!", but it's quite another to say "look, as a result of Mix ideas, the following suggestions have been implemented and addressed". Both sides of the coin will love hearing stuff like that. It cements Mix as a productive and helpful tool that actually can affect change. Put it back at the top of the list! thanks, bruce You NEED to add an “implemented” tab (or “done” or “fixed” or whatever) to Mix. Not just because it’s a nice housekeeping thing, but because it SELLS Mix to both the user community and the Oracle management.

It’s one thing to point to a cool new tool and say “see, this is pretty neat, and people love it!”, but it’s quite another to say “look, as a result of Mix ideas, the following suggestions have been implemented and addressed”. Both sides of the coin will love hearing stuff like that. It cements Mix as a productive and helpful tool that actually can affect change.

Put it back at the top of the list!

thanks,
bruce

]]> By: Justin Kestelyn http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3256 Justin Kestelyn Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:18:42 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3256 To be fair, proponents of this idea have been clamoring for it via Oracle Discussion Forums for at least a year (with Kuassi's and my participation). So although Mix was a big help, I'd argue that the community has had a voice on this issue for a long while. To be fair, proponents of this idea have been clamoring for it via Oracle Discussion Forums for at least a year (with Kuassi’s and my participation). So although Mix was a big help, I’d argue that the community has had a voice on this issue for a long while.

]]> By: Jake http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3254 Jake Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:27:46 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3254 @Tim: Good point, the case w/Macs is a bit of an anomaly because I think Kuassi has heard these comments over and over for quite some time. In general, you could make a case that SIGs and councils represent a passionate minority of customers that Mix actually helps to balance by giving more people a voice. In the end, it's up to product management to make the release scope decisions based on all the input. Mix just adds another channel for I/O. @Dan: Believe it or not, there's already an idea out there for implemented ideas. We talked about adding a tab for them, but it's slipped way down the list. We don't have that many non-Mix ideas implemented, but I hope that changes, pushing the implemented ideas idea back up the list. @Tim: Good point, the case w/Macs is a bit of an anomaly because I think Kuassi has heard these comments over and over for quite some time.

In general, you could make a case that SIGs and councils represent a passionate minority of customers that Mix actually helps to balance by giving more people a voice.

In the end, it’s up to product management to make the release scope decisions based on all the input. Mix just adds another channel for I/O.

@Dan: Believe it or not, there’s already an idea out there for implemented ideas. We talked about adding a tab for them, but it’s slipped way down the list. We don’t have that many non-Mix ideas implemented, but I hope that changes, pushing the implemented ideas idea back up the list.

]]> By: Dan Norris http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3251 Dan Norris Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:19:09 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3251 BTW, it's totally awesome that PMs (or at least some PMs) are participating in the community and responding directly to lots of users instead of the few they could touch pre-Mix. Go Mix Go! BTW, it’s totally awesome that PMs (or at least some PMs) are participating in the community and responding directly to lots of users instead of the few they could touch pre-Mix. Go Mix Go!

]]> By: Dan Norris http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3250 Dan Norris Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:17:41 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3250 Seems like there should be some sort of big sledgehammer or checkmark or some such icon indicating which ideas have been implemented and are essentially "off the list". Guess it's time to submit a Mix Idea about ideas :). Maybe even another tab for ideas that were put into service or some such thing. Seems like there should be some sort of big sledgehammer or checkmark or some such icon indicating which ideas have been implemented and are essentially “off the list”. Guess it’s time to submit a Mix Idea about ideas :). Maybe even another tab for ideas that were put into service or some such thing.

]]> By: Tim Hall http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3249 Tim Hall Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:00:23 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3249 Hi. I think it's great how Mix has given customers another way to voice their opinions. What worries me is most folks don't get involved, so there is a danger that passionate minority opinions are affecting the road map for the majority. I guess this is just like politics, so if people don't like it they've got to get involved. :) Cheers Tim... PS. This comment is not aimed at Apple, so don't flame me. :) Hi.

I think it’s great how Mix has given customers another way to voice their opinions.

What worries me is most folks don’t get involved, so there is a danger that passionate minority opinions are affecting the road map for the majority.

I guess this is just like politics, so if people don’t like it they’ve got to get involved. :)

Cheers

Tim…

PS. This comment is not aimed at Apple, so don’t flame me. :)

]]> By: Apple News and Information http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3438 Apple News and Information Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/03/25/the-greatest-idea-moves-closer-to-fruition/#comment-3438 <!--%kramer-pre%-->Blogs Alert for: Apple product updateThe Greatest Idea Moves Closer to FruitionBy Jake Early on, Kuassi Mensah commented on the top idea, ie “We need the Oracle clients (OCI, JDBC) for the Apple Intel OSX platform”, that product development was hoping to release the OCI and JDBC-OCI drivers during the first quarter of<!--%kramer-post%--> Blogs Alert for: Apple product updateThe Greatest Idea Moves Closer to FruitionBy Jake Early on, Kuassi Mensah commented on the top idea, ie “We need the Oracle clients (OCI, JDBC) for the Apple Intel OSX platform”, that product development was hoping to release the OCI and JDBC-OCI drivers during the first quarter of

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