Comments on: Who’s the Bigger Big Brother, Amazon or Google? http://oracleappslab.com/2007/06/14/whos-the-bigger-big-brother-amazon-or-google/ Driving Oracle Innovation Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:52:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Google’s plans to reduce the storage cookies http://oracleappslab.com/2007/06/14/whos-the-bigger-big-brother-amazon-or-google/#comment-131 Google’s plans to reduce the storage cookies Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:15:27 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/06/14/whos-the-bigger-big-brother-amazon-or-google/#comment-131 <strong>Google will not remember us until 2038...</strong> Most informed that some cookie with a set of Google site, which is valid until 2038. That was precisely the time and be substantially reduced. This will be the next step after anonimizatsii logs (removal of logs ID procurement and IP addresses) to impr... Google will not remember us until 2038…

Most informed that some cookie with a set of Google site, which is valid until 2038. That was precisely the time and be substantially reduced. This will be the next step after anonimizatsii logs (removal of logs ID procurement and IP addresses) to impr…

]]> By: Eddie Awad http://oracleappslab.com/2007/06/14/whos-the-bigger-big-brother-amazon-or-google/#comment-29 Eddie Awad Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:18:42 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/06/14/whos-the-bigger-big-brother-amazon-or-google/#comment-29 I'm going to have to agree with Steven. Google knows much more information about me than Amazon does, and only because I *allow* Google to store such information. I use Gmail, so Google has all my e-mail archive. I use Google Reader, so Google knows what I'm interested in. I use Google Docs and spreadsheet, Youtube, Adsense, calendar ... and as you said, all for free. No matter how hard you try, there is no such thing as "privacy" on the Internet, unless of course you do not use the Internet, which is impossible in this day and age. I’m going to have to agree with Steven. Google knows much more information about me than Amazon does, and only because I *allow* Google to store such information.

I use Gmail, so Google has all my e-mail archive. I use Google Reader, so Google knows what I’m interested in. I use Google Docs and spreadsheet, Youtube, Adsense, calendar … and as you said, all for free.

No matter how hard you try, there is no such thing as “privacy” on the Internet, unless of course you do not use the Internet, which is impossible in this day and age.

]]> By: Jake Kuramoto http://oracleappslab.com/2007/06/14/whos-the-bigger-big-brother-amazon-or-google/#comment-28 Jake Kuramoto Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:14:09 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/06/14/whos-the-bigger-big-brother-amazon-or-google/#comment-28 BTW, here's a nifty way to use Universal Search anonymously: http://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2007-06-12.html#n11 Jake BTW, here’s a nifty way to use Universal Search anonymously:
http://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2007-06-12.html#n11

Jake

]]> By: Jake Kuramoto http://oracleappslab.com/2007/06/14/whos-the-bigger-big-brother-amazon-or-google/#comment-27 Jake Kuramoto Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:10:52 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/06/14/whos-the-bigger-big-brother-amazon-or-google/#comment-27 <p>Steve,<br /> I almost added "Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after me".<br /> Definitely a big difference between what you buy and what you search for online. I am in no way a Google apologist, but I think they're getting whipped now a little unfairly. It's free service, and there are viable alternatives. By now, it's known that search logs can identify intent, and I'm nervous about the pre-crime (a la Minority Report) aspects of tracking online behavior.</p> <p>I hear Yahoo has a search engine too. And Microsoft. And there are a boatload of others too. I'll use them instead.</p> <p>I really like Amazon (always have), and I think they've done a terrific job of staying relevant. My point really is that they have more Big Brother type information than Google. I may search for infertility topics online, but if I'm buying fertility drugs and tests from Amazon, that's a much clearer picture of what's going on in my life. That's intent compared to actual deed.</p> <p>Thanks for reading,<br /> Jake</p> Steve,
I almost added “Just because I’m paranoid, doesn’t mean they’re not after me”.
Definitely a big difference between what you buy and what you search for online. I am in no way a Google apologist, but I think they’re getting whipped now a little unfairly. It’s free service, and there are viable alternatives. By now, it’s known that search logs can identify intent, and I’m nervous about the pre-crime (a la Minority Report) aspects of tracking online behavior.

I hear Yahoo has a search engine too. And Microsoft. And there are a boatload of others too. I’ll use them instead.

I really like Amazon (always have), and I think they’ve done a terrific job of staying relevant. My point really is that they have more Big Brother type information than Google. I may search for infertility topics online, but if I’m buying fertility drugs and tests from Amazon, that’s a much clearer picture of what’s going on in my life. That’s intent compared to actual deed.

Thanks for reading,
Jake

]]> By: Steven Chan http://oracleappslab.com/2007/06/14/whos-the-bigger-big-brother-amazon-or-google/#comment-26 Steven Chan Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:47:12 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/06/14/whos-the-bigger-big-brother-amazon-or-google/#comment-26 There's a *big* difference between what I buy and what I search for on the web. In many ways, what I search for reflects deeper insight into me, since it reflects my interests rather than consumption needs. For example, I buy toothbrushes and dental floss from Amazon. Who cares? But I google for medical information for ailing friends suffering from cancer. Google could sell my search history to HMOs, who might then jack up my healthcare premiums (or worse, disqualify me for coverage) because of a mistaken idea that I'm going to start filing expensive cancer-related claims. Google hasn't done this... yet. But others have. There are reports of people who have surfed oncological sites anonymously, only to receive directed emails (!) about cancer-related topics soon after. Google may claim to do no evil, but others like DoubleClick make no such claims. This is why I block all unnecessary third-party cookies as a rule for all websites, and only allow session cookies (linked to anonymized junk email accounts with fictious personal info) when absolutely necessary. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that there's no reason for concern. Regards, Steven There’s a *big* difference between what I buy and what I search for on the web. In many ways, what I search for reflects deeper insight into me, since it reflects my interests rather than consumption needs.

For example, I buy toothbrushes and dental floss from Amazon. Who cares?

But I google for medical information for ailing friends suffering from cancer. Google could sell my search history to HMOs, who might then jack up my healthcare premiums (or worse, disqualify me for coverage) because of a mistaken idea that I’m going to start filing expensive cancer-related claims.

Google hasn’t done this… yet. But others have. There are reports of people who have surfed oncological sites anonymously, only to receive directed emails (!) about cancer-related topics soon after. Google may claim to do no evil, but others like DoubleClick make no such claims.

This is why I block all unnecessary third-party cookies as a rule for all websites, and only allow session cookies (linked to anonymized junk email accounts with fictious personal info) when absolutely necessary.

Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean that there’s no reason for concern.

Regards,
Steven

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